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Tuesday, January 19th 2016, 4:41pm

Discussion of Aaron's Admin Application

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Tuesday, January 19th 2016, 6:40pm

objection

I dont support this decision...all these matters cant be resolved by strict guidlines...we have another rule for admins here as i remember...fluent english...we can cut some slack there...so we should be able to cut it elsewhere...Age doesnt determine the maturity...my i bring out jeffs case here...he came clean that he lied about his age..so u didnt know that he was too young...in Aarons case i know the age now and im a bit surprised..i was sure that he was older concidering my time spent online with him...i think these decisions should be made upon the character of the player..not his stats...no disrespect, but may i make a suggestion? Make a vote amongst all admins about if they think that aaron would make a good admin..i think ull be surprised with the results...and another suggestion...sometimes ask the oppinion of the assistants...we are the ones spending the most time online...we know our players the best.

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Tuesday, January 19th 2016, 6:42pm

"and another suggestion...sometimes ask the oppinion of the
assistants...we are the ones spending the most time online...we know our
players the best."

Golden words Stalk, one of the reasons I resigned.

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Tuesday, January 19th 2016, 7:05pm

I have moved the discussion into a separate thread.

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EDIT: As for the discussion:

There is no doubt that the assistants know the most about the people on the server.

I as a staff member have acted towards the stated rules pinned to the top of the application area. Aaron has failed to comply to our age requirement, so this application must be declined. I take full responsibility on this decision.


However, we are currently - as the age topic is rather hot now in light of Jeff's and Classified's posts - discussing the whole age thing internally. Feel free to discuss here or internally, but keep in mind that these matters should always be discussed internally within the team.

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Wednesday, January 20th 2016, 9:58am

How about we keep the age restriction as it is because I really think that Luk is right about it. We can't go below 16 for age.

Incase admins came across someone exceptional then a new set of rules can be applied for candidates below 16.

Admins observation:
Admins team should observe players until they hit 45 prestige which by then they will be completely aware of our rules and how we run the community.

Admins votes:
If there is a potential admin material it should be discussed carefully and internally only.
This step can be done at once, or it can be discussed first between admins and head admin to filter candidates and then the heads should be informed with the votes to make the final decision.

Candidates can't apply by them selves:
Yes they can't, because they don't meet the age restriction. In order to apply they MUST be recommended and approached officially by Head Admin or by Full time admins based on the Head Admin request.

Probation period:
Normally it's 1 month but in this case maybe we should extend it from 3-4 months.
What we will benefit from this extension:
- Testing the candidate's resolution and observe him how he acts when there is authority in his hands.
- Guiding him in field as full admins on how to act, talk , and deal with different situations.
- If he passes such a long probation period then we will minimise the risk of choosing a wrong candidate.

I believe that such measure should reduce the risks that we are all concerned of and in the same time opens the door for exceptional players to come straight forward instead of forcing them to do things the wrong way and burdening them with it.

In the end by applying these rules there will not be exceptions for situations as such, because now there is way to things right.
Prove you are worthy and you will be recognised.

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Wednesday, January 20th 2016, 11:37am

A great suggestion Slayer

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Wednesday, January 20th 2016, 2:13pm

Admins observation: Admins team should observe players until they hit 45 prestige which by then they will be completely aware of our rules and how we run the community.
About this..i think this can be a bit lowered let's say to level 30 because for this level also you have to play some time and till then you are familiar with how adinistration works and what are the rules.....but nice suggestions there

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Wednesday, January 20th 2016, 8:33pm

a good suggestion from By [EGY]SLAYER ... :thumbup:

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Wednesday, January 20th 2016, 9:07pm

Spoken like a wise man Sly :D I get ur point of view Luk and i respect ur solidness in that matter...but i say this...in our country there iz a saying...an exeption is what makes it a rule...i hope u get what i mean by that :) im totally backing slys idea that under 16 cant apply but can be recommended...awesome idea...could zolve the whole matter...dont chage any rules...just add one...and we stay rock solid...no rules broken :)

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Thursday, January 21st 2016, 9:12am

Admins observation:
Admins team should observe players until they hit 45 prestige which by then they will be completely aware of our rules and how we run the community.
Problem about that would be that the rank is bound to the mod's name. Since we use the official "rotu-r-alpha" modfolder name, players could have gained that rank from other servers.
We should use Echelon (B3) and GameTracker to get knowledge about the total game time on our server.
Also prestige 45 takes fucking ages to get (well, at least for me :P)

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All in all I agree to the fact that admin approval should rely much more on the opinion of admins that were on the server than of staff members. We can use the requirements as guidelines to make decisions easier, but if our team feels comfortable with a new person, they should be allowed to give him a chance while also being in charge of educating the new member.

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Thursday, January 21st 2016, 9:44am

Plus..i want to add one more requirement (guideline) to install TS3,and to meet new admins there and tell them what or how to do their job,also to connect admins to also have fun but mainly to better connect them as a team

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Thursday, January 21st 2016, 11:43am

I have TS, but but but you do not want to hear me speaking really in English, I understand everything, but speak very much very slowly in English :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .....leter only ban for Lorena from TS :laugh: :laugh:

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Thursday, January 21st 2016, 12:06pm

Lorena,even im not an expert in english,we would do this to better communicate,to form better team,think of it like team building

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Thursday, January 21st 2016, 12:08pm

ok,,,,i come next time in TS....you right for teambuilding......